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Post by Rasteroid on Jul 2, 2012 18:59:03 GMT -5
Ok, situation: I do not want to add any new policy settings.
Problem: I foresee it perhaps being frustrating when you are building nukes/etc., and you end up spending all your stockpiled URO, instead a few handy dandy EUR.
So, which carries more weight:
a) The rarity of having 5 URO in your inv, and maintaining the universality of the 5:1 ratio.
b) Making URO/EUR the exception to the 5:1 ratio rule, but sacrificing the ability to spend 5 URO instead of an EUR when the situation arises.
Hm, I guess an option C would be to allow 5:1 spending of URO, but to take the EUR by default if it was present.
Thoughts?
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Post by inanimatej on Jul 2, 2012 19:12:38 GMT -5
Don't the other 3 5:1's take the refined over the base materials as a default already? If they don't, I think all four of them should do that to begin with. (I think they might not, I seem to recall a situation where I built a cannon with 15 iron and 1 steel available and I was left with 5/1 instead of 10/0 as I would generally expect.)
Since a large majority of trades are base/base, using refined materials as default could get around this, though it makes it awkward to build things when you're stockpiling the latter.
... I don't really see a good alternative to this aside from policy.
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Post by xade on Jul 2, 2012 20:02:27 GMT -5
Yeah, the way the world is working, unlike the old BM where refined materials were god, and you couldn't trade unrefined - it's currently looking like unrefined is the butter that keeps the wheel churning milk. (It's a Dutch phase. deal with it)
Perhaps a flag during construction to use refined material first would be a decent option?
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Post by Rasteroid on Jul 2, 2012 21:55:24 GMT -5
What? When would you ever want to spend refined over base, except in the case of URO which actually has another application?
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Post by xade on Jul 2, 2012 23:01:08 GMT -5
I dunno, I'm a coal miner- I'm just noting that refined materials are extremely rare on the open market at the moment- meaning if you want to trade, you need to use the base materials.
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Post by Rasteroid on Jul 2, 2012 23:13:06 GMT -5
why? I'm missing something.
Refined materials might be more rare, but I see a few trades. I'm still kind of grappling with balancing out the new pollution, but I have my second refinery running now.
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Post by iuewen on Jul 2, 2012 23:28:04 GMT -5
I am kind of torn on that one. On one hand, as a URO miner, I'd rather have EUR 110% of the time. It doesn't get stolen if I get vassalized, it lets me defeat the fuckers in defensive combat (I am only holding one cannon from now on, its as good as setting Firepower: 1 on defensive with a stockpile of EUR), and it is worth a whole hell of a lot more to Ramul. However, once I finish teching up to Reactor (almost there...) I can see a reason for keeping URO around.
For the non-URO miner, I think URO is even more valuable. It is going to be much harder for the average joe to get ahold of URO, it is very valuable in teching up, combat, and will be key in keeping pollution low and GM high once everyone begins using Reactors. I like Option C the most, swap priority on EUR and URO so it saves the URO.
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Post by Rasteroid on Jul 2, 2012 23:30:51 GMT -5
Finally, someone who makes an ounce of sense. Those are the kind of lines I was thinking along, iuewen.
That said, if you have so much damn URO, you're probably topping up your reactor regardless. Unless someone's argument floors me, I think I'm going to leave it the way it is for now, until we hear some experienced voices/stories.
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Post by inanimatej on Jul 3, 2012 0:17:56 GMT -5
I want to spend refined over base because of the sheer fucktitude of vassal trades I have available for me. The Battler playstyle doesn't really build buildings, but when I do need to put back up a cannon or a warehouse, I'd rather use the aluminum or steel I tithed off, instead of the 10 pig iron I could be trading away for more URO to keep the masses in line. I can get around this by making sure I trade before I build, but sometimes it just doesn't work that way.
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Post by Rasteroid on Jul 3, 2012 0:23:19 GMT -5
weird! okay, duly noted.
you're really playing your own game over there, aintcha?
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Post by inanimatej on Jul 3, 2012 0:30:27 GMT -5
Yeah, it's 100% ass backwards to everyone else, but it works for what I want to do right now! After the reset I'll probably play builder for a while. Or land exchange someone with a juicy plot. Maybe.
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